Jeff Kaplan: World of Warcraft, Overwatch, Blizzard, and Future of Gaming | Lex Fridman Podcast #493

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- There's three types of fun, fun for the player, fun for the designer, and fun for the computer. - Is it PvP? - It's all PvP. In fact, Rust is the most PvP thing in all of PvP. - Well, I don't know what that means, but... - Rust players know what that means. My whole career and…